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Oklahomans to get 'front row seat' to budget process as historic public hearings slated

Senate Pro Tem Greg Treat (left) and House Speaker Charles McCall (right) sit behind Gov. Kevin Stitt (center) at the 2024 State of the State Address.
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Senate Pro Tem Greg Treat (left) and House Speaker Charles McCall (right) sit behind Gov. Kevin Stitt (center) at the 2024 State of the State Address.

Legislative leaders and Gov. Kevin Stitt’s office are expected to sit down Monday in what could be a historic public meeting on budget negotiations.

House Speaker Charles McCall, R-Atoka, on Thursday appeared more optimistic on a forthcoming budget agreement than his counterpart, Senate Pro Tem Greg Treat.

Treat, R-Oklahoma City, earlier this week fired Senate Appropriations Chair Roger Thompson, R-Okemah, a month before lawmakers are set to adjourn. Treat blamed the House for prompting closed-door negotiations.

“Deals made in the dark will not be honored,” Treat said Thursday.

Meanwhile, several Senate appropriations subcommittees met Thursday to reconcile budget proposals that each chamber has shared publicly.

The Senate’s education subcommittee remained firm that money for school support staff stipends, student teacher wages and a separate teacher maternity leave fund should make the final cut of the state Department of Education’s budget.

But the committee’s chair, Sen. Adam Pugh, R-Edmond, said the House doesn’t want to raise education funding after last year’s major increase.

“What was said to me is, ‘Education has enough money,’” Pugh said during the meeting.

McCall said good work has been accomplished to reconcile differences between the two chambers.

McCall and Treat both asked that the Monday budget negotiation be live-streamed so the public could watch.

“If you weren’t quite sure how this process worked … you’re going to get a front row seat to it next week,” McCall said.

For years, critics have complained that the budget is largely negotiated behind closed doors with very few people involved and trotted out just before the end of session for an up or down vote.

Both chambers this session have worked to make the process more transparent.

“I still believe we are close on the budget,” McCall said, adding that there are only a handful of things to discuss.

McCall said the House wants a tax cut.

“We think that is warranted on a lot of fronts,” McCall said.

The Senate has resisted an income tax cut after agreeing earlier this session to eliminate the state sales tax on groceries.

“We have a strong record in the Oklahoma Senate of supporting tax cuts that are reasonable, rational and sustainable,” Treat said.

Treat said Senate leadership will listen to Stitt and House leaders’ support for an income tax reduction.

“But we have made a very firm statement earlier this year that we were going to figure out which tax cuts we could afford,” Treat said. “We passed the grocery tax elimination, and we moved on to looking at the budget.”

Treat said he has some real concerns about “pet projects” the House tried to insert into the process last week.

He expects to bring those up during Monday’s meeting and let House leadership defend them, he said.

McCall said it is possible a deal could be reached on Monday.

“No,” Treat said. “That is not going to happen.”

He said a forced deadline shouldn’t be inserted into the process.

Lawmakers must adjourn by 5 p.m. May 31.


Oklahoma Voice is part of States Newsroom, a nonprofit news network supported by grants and a coalition of donors as a 501c(3) public charity. Oklahoma Voice maintains editorial independence.

Nuria Martinez-Keel covers education for Oklahoma Voice. She worked in newspapers for six years, more than four of which she spent at The Oklahoman covering education and courts. Nuria is an Oklahoma State University graduate.
Barbara Hoberock is a senior reporter with Oklahoma Voice. She began her career in journalism in 1989 after graduating from Oklahoma State University. She began with the Claremore Daily Progress and then started working in 1990 for the Tulsa World. She has covered the statehouse since 1994 and served as Tulsa World Capitol Bureau chief. She covers statewide elected officials, the legislature, agencies, state issues, appellate courts and elections.
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