Comments on: Illinois, Catholic Agencies At Odds Over Gay Adoptions http://kosu.org/2011/07/illinois-catholic-agencies-at-odds-over-gay-adoptions/ The State's Public Radio Fri, 24 May 2013 17:14:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Dough http://kosu.org/2011/07/illinois-catholic-agencies-at-odds-over-gay-adoptions/comment-page-1/#comment-121785 Dough Sun, 24 Jul 2011 06:43:31 +0000 http://kosu.org/2011/07/illinois-catholic-agencies-at-odds-over-gay-adoptions/#comment-121785 Why didn't the parents report the abuse immediately? Why didn't Matt report the abuse when he was old enough? WHY DIDN'T YOU REPORT IT? There are too many stories of people wanting to hop on the gravy train claiming abuse only for the money. According to very extensive studies, Catholic clergy and teachers are LESS LIKELY to have sexually abused children than Protestants and the general population. That doesn't make it OK, but it does indicate your callous comments are inappropriate. False and vicious comments such as yours are why people believe the sinful conduct of those priests and, yes, even bishops, is much more widespread than it actually is. What if I said all men named Aaron were perverts? While there may be some, it is doubtful all are and such a statement would be wrong, wouldn't it be Aaron? Why didn't the parents report the abuse immediately? Why didn't Matt report the abuse when he was old enough? WHY DIDN'T YOU REPORT IT? There are too many stories of people wanting to hop on the gravy train claiming abuse only for the money. According to very extensive studies, Catholic clergy and teachers are LESS LIKELY to have sexually abused children than Protestants and the general population. That doesn't make it OK, but it does indicate your callous comments are inappropriate. False and vicious comments such as yours are why people believe the sinful conduct of those priests and, yes, even bishops, is much more widespread than it actually is. What if I said all men named Aaron were perverts? While there may be some, it is doubtful all are and such a statement would be wrong, wouldn't it be Aaron?

]]> By: Angelo Stagnaro http://kosu.org/2011/07/illinois-catholic-agencies-at-odds-over-gay-adoptions/comment-page-1/#comment-121710 Angelo Stagnaro Wed, 06 Jul 2011 22:23:32 +0000 http://kosu.org/2011/07/illinois-catholic-agencies-at-odds-over-gay-adoptions/#comment-121710 I completely agree with Aaron. Any group or individual even tangentially related to a group that has had even a single misanthrope within its ranks must be excluded from receiving any monies from the state. Unfortunately, this would also mean all irreligionists and anti-religionists considering the evil they caused during the reign of terror that was communism. For those who are counting, atheist communists managed to kill more than 100 million people within the course of 80 years. As you see, Aaron, wild, unthought-out, anti-intellectual claims like yours have a way of biting you in the rear. Oh! And by the way, I was molested by someone who, like you, was anti-Catholic. Will you be sacrificing your own sanctimonious self in his stead? Will you be accepting the punishment that should be his and his alone? And, as long as you're accepting all of this is misdirected blame upon your own bigoted shoulders, I presume you will also be offering yourself up for the sins of your confreres for ignoring Roman Polanski's escaping justice for more than 35 years. Will you be serving time for him? How about his many supporters who claim that the "girl really wanted to be abused" or "Well…he's an artist and should be forgiven" or "Well…that was a very long time ago?" These people should be punished also, shouldn't they be? They are circumventing justice and helping a pedophile. If you poll these people, they are would agree with you that all Catholic priests were pedophiles but they all lack the intelligence to realize their own mistakes. It's a pity that stupidity isn't against the law. If it were, you and they and Roman Polanski could all comfort each other in prison as you try to convince each other and yourselves as to how "open-minded" you all are. I completely agree with Aaron. Any group or individual even tangentially related to a group that has had even a single misanthrope within its ranks must be excluded from receiving any monies from the state. Unfortunately, this would also mean all irreligionists and anti-religionists considering the evil they caused during the reign of terror that was communism. For those who are counting, atheist communists managed to kill more than 100 million people within the course of 80 years. As you see, Aaron, wild, unthought-out, anti-intellectual claims like yours have a way of biting you in the rear. Oh! And by the way, I was molested by someone who, like you, was anti-Catholic. Will you be sacrificing your own sanctimonious self in his stead? Will you be accepting the punishment that should be his and his alone? And, as long as you're accepting all of this is misdirected blame upon your own bigoted shoulders, I presume you will also be offering yourself up for the sins of your confreres for ignoring Roman Polanski's escaping justice for more than 35 years. Will you be serving time for him? How about his many supporters who claim that the "girl really wanted to be abused" or "Well…he's an artist and should be forgiven" or "Well…that was a very long time ago?" These people should be punished also, shouldn't they be? They are circumventing justice and helping a pedophile. If you poll these people, they are would agree with you that all Catholic priests were pedophiles but they all lack the intelligence to realize their own mistakes. It's a pity that stupidity isn't against the law. If it were, you and they and Roman Polanski could all comfort each other in prison as you try to convince each other and yourselves as to how "open-minded" you all are.

]]> By: Aaron http://kosu.org/2011/07/illinois-catholic-agencies-at-odds-over-gay-adoptions/comment-page-1/#comment-121708 Aaron Wed, 06 Jul 2011 08:49:29 +0000 http://kosu.org/2011/07/illinois-catholic-agencies-at-odds-over-gay-adoptions/#comment-121708 My best friend Matt was sexually abused by a catholic priest in Peoria, Illinois (at St Mark's Perish) for several years. This abuse began when Matt was only 8 years old; just a child who went to his priest for help. Mr. Breene seems so concerned about catholic values being compromised when adopting children to the gay parents. Is Mr. Breene ever concerned about the children who were molested by the pedophile catholic priest in Peoria, the diocese which he represents. Or any concern about the catholic church moving the pedophile priests after they are caught (instead of turning them into the authorities), so that they can abuse more children elsewhere. What I am puzzled about is why an organization such as the catholic church which has a proven history of pedophilia, is receiving funds from the State. My best friend Matt was sexually abused by a catholic priest in Peoria, Illinois (at St Mark's Perish) for several years. This abuse began when Matt was only 8 years old; just a child who went to his priest for help.

Mr. Breene seems so concerned about catholic values being compromised when adopting children to the gay parents. Is Mr. Breene ever concerned about the children who were molested by the pedophile catholic priest in Peoria, the diocese which he represents. Or any concern about the catholic church moving the pedophile priests after they are caught (instead of turning them into the authorities), so that they can abuse more children elsewhere.

What I am puzzled about is why an organization such as the catholic church which has a proven history of pedophilia, is receiving funds from the State.

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